January 4, 2005

  • Went last night and saw "Finding Neverland", can you ever have too much Johnny Depp?  I didn't think so.  Saw a preview for the new Choclate Factory, and Bluesoid said he would like to see it, so more Depp coming up! Yay!


    After seeing "Finding Neverland" and "Lemony Snicket" a week apart, I really need to focus on going to movies without death for a bit.  Both of these movies are about children losing their parents, and I see shadows of my children's faces in the faces of the young actors.  I'm torn between yelling at the screen to stop acting what you can't begin to imagine, and running off to find my kids and make sure they are OK.  I remember those haunted looks.


    I remember my son asking "Why did he have to die?" and my answer was the same as Johnny's in Finding Neverland - "I don't know."  Shitty answer at best, but the only truth.



    I have a problem sometimes being patient with people who don't want to be patient with my kids grief work.  Does that make sense?  If you didn't lose someone so close to you, you have no business judging.  Who the hell are you to say they should be getting over it, or I'm being too easy on them, or coddling them too much.  If a parent you adored didn't die when you were a teenager, how can you know how they feel, or how long it takes to heal?  I didn't lose mine......I have no idea how they feel, and I cant judge.  I only know how hard it is to lose a spouse after 20 years, and its terribly hard, but is it as hard as losing your father for the rest of your life?  He's not going to be at your graduations, he's never going to play with your children, you're not going to be able to call him when you need an extra hundred bucks, etc., etc.  What a huge hole.


    Parents and children are not "replaceable".  My husband is not replaceable either, as the person he was, but I am able to move on and find companionship, a friend, a lover, someone to live with and dream with.  But my kids...........they are fatherless for the rest of their lives.  No one can fill the hole in thier hearts that he left, they will think of him thousands of times, everytime he's not at something he should have been at, everytime someone else is wearing his after-shave, everytime they see someone built like him at the mall, or hear someone laugh kind of like he did.  Or when their own sons do or say things that remind them so much of a man dead these many years..........no, the road my children travel is long and painful, so very painful.  I will do all that is in my power to help them come out of this mentally healthy, and unless you have compassion, only compassion, for them, then keep your opinions to yourself.


    No, no one in my life is doing this, I'm just talking in generalities.  Sometimes things that people say flippantly, or without thinking, or just filling the air with sound, cut very deeply into wounds that they dont even know are there.  Like how Johnny Depp did in "Finding Neverland" when he was pretending with the young boy and said he would be like a father to him.  The boy took him literally, and said that he would never replace his father and stopped playing with him.  He didn't mean for the world to take the childs pain lightly, he just didn't know that would affect him the way it did.



    My kids were moody and stand-offish during the holidays, and I gave them plenty of room.  I tried not to critisize, and was thankful for every time they let me "hang out" with them.  They pitched in together and bought me a beautiful garnet and diamond bracelet.  They worried about how I was handling the Holidays, I worried about them.  I guess that's love! Ha!


    To the one or two of you that read this whole thing, thanks for letting me vent.  Just one of those days, after a night of dreaming.


     

Comments (15)

  • wow, shellie.

    i think you are correct - no one can say how to deal with their loss, not even another child who has lost a parent, bc that child and that parent were not the same as your children and their father...

    my grandfather died nearly 3 years ago, my mother still grieves for him. so does my grandmother - daily. i miss him and love him so much, but i don't grieve the same way they do.

    my mother's best friend lost her son when he was a senior in high school after a freak football injruy due to a flaw in his helmet... i was in 4th or 5th grade at the time. it still affects me... his sister, and his mother and father have been through so much. shawn is very much still around (i should share his story on here).

    one of my best friend's lost her father when she was in 4th grade. two little sisters younger than her as well. she still has the letter he wrote from the hospital framed in her bedroom.

    you just can't know. no one can. but you love your kids, and they are so lucky to have you, and to have that space - to be.

    again, you amaze me.

    (and your cat? with his crossed paws? *heart melts*)

  • ryc: LMAO, yah, that poor poor dog... *sigh* what is he anyway??? you know what was worse? his owner - did you ever get a glimpse of her or hear her interviewed? F-R-E-A-K.

  • I do understand what you are saying.  And I agree that a parent is truly irreplaceable.  Grief cannot be felt according to a schedule.  I do not think that two siblings will even experience grief in identical ways or periods of time for it must be unique to every individual.  In my opinion, you know your children better than anyone else and you instinctively know what they need, when they need it, and how they need to receive it.  And they probably know the same about you.  The hardest part - sometimes - is trusting your instincts.  And although it has been remarkably hard, it sounds like you've been doing a fantastic job for your kids.  Vent all you need ... I don't think any of us mind listening; it's the least we can do for you.  Take care.  ~ Jill

  • ryc: I really liked "Medium" and I'm looking forward to the second helping they're giving us on Thursday night in the "ER" spot ... 10 pm ET/9 CT.  I think this has been a pretty good season for television - far better than the last!  And I'm also anxiously awaiting "24" ... it's a wonder I ever get anything done.  I'm such a TV junkie!

  • Everyone grieves in different ways that is the only certainty. Just because some of us get up and go on with daily lives doesn't mean we aren't hurting/grieving inside! This was very timely because the gal at work who's mom was killed Christmas Eve came back to work yesterday. she seems pretty numb at times and her mind wanders I'm sure - but she siad we are good for her - we stop and give her hugs - tell her how much we love her - and she needs that right now. Every one is different ....that is what makes us unique!
    The kids are probably so greatful you let them have their space - as tough as that is at times it's also human nature!
    I think you are a very strong woman and you constantly wow me with your insights!
    Love you
    Deb

  • *wipes away tears*
    I agree with Deb... you are an amazingly strong woman.

  • You truly are an amazing woman.  I don't know how my mother would handle the situation, she is a 'get over it' type of mom.  You have really put a lot of thought into how they feel, even though you lost your partner, lover, friend, spouse.  I think you are a wonderful mom.  Best of all, you seem to know what they need and give it to them.  ~hugs~

    Christy

  • I remember a comment someone made regarding my Gramps' death. It was so thoughtless and cruel and I knew she really didn't get it, she thought she was being helpful. I still haven't forgiven her for the remark.

    Everyone needs to grieve at their own pace. It must be done and done thoroughly in the way that is best for each person because no one has the same relationship with one they loved.

    I'm not sure I'm getting this across correctly...you had a special relationship with your husband and your children each had relationships with their father that was different from yours and from their siblings. With that thought in mind, each will deal with those aspects of their relationship's loss in a way differently.

    I was a granddaughter to my Gramps but I was closer to him than my cousins who were also granddaughters. I reacted much differently than they did the day he died. My grandmother faulted me because I was not keening as they had done. I don't let people see me as my guts rip out of my body.

    Maybe I didn't show the emotions because in that case I'd been there and had seen his condition. I'd been able to sneak in and visit with him. I'd been there to hear his decision to die rather than go through another agonizing surgery. I'd already made peace just as he had.

    My cousins, I think, hadn't gotten to do that and it just tore them up. We've all talked about that day and each of us heard what the other was thinking and feeling and our stories were good for us to hear. We found peace and comfort in sharing them even though each was vastly different. We didn't judge, we only loved.

    I didn't mean to make this about me. I have no frame of reference regarding a loss such as you suffered as my greatest loss to date is my Gramps. I often think he's the main reason I came into this life.

    Love to you and your children.

  • I stumbled on your site by accident so I don't know your history at all.  I just wanted to say that I am so sorry for your loss and for your kids loss.  I can't even begin to imagine how any of you feel.  I can only imagine what it would be like to loose my father...and I do hope I never loose him suddenly.  I'm sending you all hugs!  {{{{hugs}}}}

  • Hello again.  Of course since ive been back your site is the first that I have visited.  Call me a whimp if you will, but your comment above touched me.  It's amazing how LOVE can make you or break you.  I can't imagine losing my wife or children, but in reality it is very possible.  More possible then alot of people can imagine.  That is why we cannot take our loved ones for granted... not a minute!!.  I lost a very close aunt.... and eventhough she wasnt in my immediate household, my life changed and I was depressed for a long time.  I found that there is very little that could fill that spot that she left empty in my life.  I have decided to love more and care more for others and accept Jesus into my life.  Today ..I live a different life  sorry for semi bloggin on your blog...    hey and thanks for always visiting my site ...even when I was down :)

  • So many comments have said what I feel and think, I lost a son, C &F lost their brother, M. lost his best friend, we all dealt with our loss in different ways, what I do know is that A. is forever present, we talk as if he was with us, we talk about him, it is our way not to feel that we've lost him. I had a woman comment once, she said that I was cold, maybe because I don't show my tears, then she added that probably the reason could be my "being english". how about that as an insentitive deduction!  You are a good mum,there is nothing more you can do to what you're already doing.We don't learn how to cope with our own feelings, let alone others, even if they are our children, we can only cope with love, patience, undertanding.And to let the tears , and anger flow when they come.

  • wow, I am speechless, I have not gone through that type of pain, but I live in fear of it everyday, my daughter's father is in the Army and it could be a reality for us one day.  You sound like an amazingly strong woman, I only hope that, if faced with such a reality, I could be as strong for my kids as you...Bright Blessings to you ~Astral

  • Shellie, you are doing an awesome job with your kids, and with yourself, too. You are so there for them, and all the while you're going through your own grief process. ((((hug))))

    And yes, people do say the most knuckleheaded things. I had a doctor chasten me because it had been a year since my parents died, and I wasn't "over it" yet. "What's your problem?" he asked, just get on with your life. Sheesh. Thankfully most people were nicer than he was. Obviously I lost that doctor as soon as I could.

    And one can never have enough Depp. I find him to be balm for the soul, I really do. Finding Neverland had me crying buckets, both times I saw it. Little Freddie did an amazing job.

    Love you,
    S2

  • (tears)  ((((((((((((HUGS!!!)))))))))))))

    Words fall short....   :o (

  • Gosh, after all that...  Is there anything left that I can say that would mean anything more than what has already been said/written?  Ok, so here's something...  Love Ya!!!  No one else said, "OneGoneCrazy loves ya!"  ;)

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